<incom> <nettime> www.theglobalvote.org

Mon Dec 3 06:31:41 CET 2007

Here is a reply from Patrick at Global Vote. He has attached the english
brochure as a pdf, if it doesn't reach the list write to em and I shall
forward it.
best
Martin

Dear all,

There has been some discussion on the  <http://www.theglobalvote.org/>
www.theglobalvote.org , thanks for the feedback on the concept and
technology! Here some answers to clarify, the initiative is USA /
Netherlands based, we have foundational status in Netherlands and we are in
the process to get NGO status (501c application) in the USA, we don't have a
street address as we are a virtual organization :). We are a group of
committed individuals with extensive experience in the international arena
in different disciplines. We have started the GlobalVote because we believe
strongly in the potential of the project to effect positive change, and are
ambitious enough to follow through on our ideas in order to make it happen.

We believe that the current way of taking global decisions should be
reviewed. 15 men (average age 61, and 5 permanent veto members) going in a
room (UN security council) and taking decisions which might have impact on
everybody on the earth might have been a good scenario after the second
world war, but outdated in 2007.

Globalvote not only questions the way that global decisions are made, but
offers an alternative. We have the ambition to create a worldwide group
which discusses and votes on global issues.  The brochure temporarily
doesn't download but in the "about GlobalVote" you can find more details. If
you want to have more information send an email to
info at theglobalvote.organd we can share our business plan with you.
Thanks for all the people who
joined in the last days, we promise not to use your data for marketing
purposes but we need it to show that the people of the world might think
differently about certain global issues then the current group of decision
makers.

Let'smake, by providing shadow data, the discussion on how the way global
decisions are made more lively so changes and reforms in the way and in the
institutions will happen.

Regards, Patrick ( patrick at theglobalvote.org )

On 12/2/07, martin hardie <martin.hardie at gmail.com> wrote:
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Peter Burgess <peterbnyc at gmail.com>
> Date: 3 Dec 2007 00:35
> Subject: Re: <incom> <nettime> Fwd: www.theglobalvote.org
> To: mark bartlett < mark at globalpostmark.net>
> Cc: martin hardie < martin.hardie at gmail.com>, "Autonomia, Operaismo, and
> Class Composition" < aut-op-sy at lists.resist.ca>, incom <
> incom-l at incommunicado.info>, nettime-l at kein.org
>
> Dear Colleagues
>
> Mark has observed that he would recommend strongly against joining in
> in part because of their interest in personal data and the fact of no
> disclosure about privacy policy.
>
> Did I visit the same site? I found information about their privacy
> policy and I found details of an advisory board and staff that was
> quite complete, including email addresses.
>
> On the negative side: ... I could not find a street address or
> telephone number and a brochure in English refused to download.
>
> My view of this site is less negative in terms of pulling in marketing
> information than Mark's assessment
>
> But my view of its value is probably more pessimistic. The established
> institutions have demonstrated their ability to change at the pace of
> a glacier before global warming. They will not be phased by this
> initiative.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Peter Burgess
> --
> ____________
> Peter Burgess
> The Transparency and Accountability Network: Tr-Ac-Net in New York
> www.tr-ac-net.org
> IMMC - The Integrated Malaria Management Consortium Inc.
> www.IMMConsortium.org <http://www.immconsortium.org/>
> 917 432 1191 or 212 772 6918  peterbnyc at gmail.com
> /////////////////////////////////////////
> On Dec 2, 2007 3:18 AM, mark bartlett < mark at globalpostmark.net> wrote:
> > i have to say that, after going to this site, i would recommend
> > strongly against it because it asks for all the information that
> > telemarketers do. With having even their disclosure about privacy
> > rights.... all a wash in any case. Voting is based on anonymity, no?
> >
> > the way this site offers itself, it could be a direct feed in to the
> > US-Stassi surveillance system.
> >
> > too bad, because a global vote system could be a very powerful tool
> > for social change.
> >
> > how does this kind of post get onto this list?
> >
> > mark bartlett, phd.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:40 PM, martin hardie wrote:
> >
> > > a little more info re global vote:
> > >
> > >  Launch and search for members for www.theglobalvote.org
> > >
> > > GlobalVote ( www.theglobalvote.org ) has been launched to contribute
> > > to the
> > > debate on decision-making processes within major international
> > > organizations such as the UN, the World Bank, and the International
> > > Monetary
> > > Fund. This will be done by collecting the opinions of the
> > > international
> > > online community, and by disseminating these polling results to
> > > International Organizations, universities, the media, and national
> > > governments.
> > >
> > > Largely unrepresentative, major international organizations have had a
> > > decisive impact on world policy over the past 60 years, but their
> > > decisions are made in an exceedingly opaque way. By utilizing
> > > innovative,
> > > transparent polling systems GlobalVote advocates for fairer
> > > representation,
> > > and collects popular opinion on the most important decisions affecting
>
> > > people around the globe.
> > >
> > > Although global communication has been taking place nearly
> > > effortlessly for
> > > over a decade, the opinions of the online global community have yet
> > > to be
> > > collected in a systematic way. With developed and underdeveloped
> > > countries
> > > struggling with democracy on every level of society, and with these
> > > countries building their infrastructures more and more around the
> > > internet
> > > and wireless communication, the future of democracy could very well
> > > develop
> > > online. GlobalVote aims to be at the beginning of this exciting
> > > future.
> > >
> > > If you want to be part of the future please go to
> > > www.theglobalvote.org and
> > > become a member, if you have friends who are interested in global
> > > issues
> > > please refer them to the website as well. Yesterday we have closed a
> > > resolution on "Sanctions on Iran?" and the results of the vote can
> > > be seen
> > > on the website, currently a resolution on the emergency state in
> > > Pakistan
> > > has been posted, if you want to voice your opinion please "become
> > > member"
> > > and leave a comment in the connected form and vote! As the
> > > initiative is in
> > > the beginning also all comments and suggestions for improvements
> > > are welcome
> > > and can be sent to info at theglobalvote.org. Your cooperation and
> > > patience is
> > > highly appreciated!
> > >
> > > Let's vote !
> > >
> > >
> > > On 01/12/2007, martin hardie < martin.hardie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> a  colleague has sent me this below. I'm (and he) are interested
> > >> to see
> > >> what
> > >> people think - what else could be done with it etc etc,
> > >>
> > >> On the site working on a project www.theglobalvote.org could you
> > >> take a
> > >> look
> > >> at it and let me know what you think? Voting on global
> > >> issues......  At
> > >> this
> > >> moment soft launch we are having 100 members and need more, any
> > >> idea how
> > >> we
> > >> can reach out more to political science people around the world?
> > >>
> > >> Martin
> > >>
> > >> --
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> > >>
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> > >> they've been
> > >> in
> > >> a plant that's got toxic stuff on them and they get hosed down
> > >> later. I
> > >> felt
> > >> on Saturday night like I'd been hosed down."
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> > > auskadi.mjzhosting.com/
> > >
> > > "I was just so relieved that the toxicity of this government had
> > > gone, this
> > > dreadful vicious show which had been around for all these years,
> > > the active
> > > disparaging of particular classes and groups.
> > >
> > > "I felt like you know sometimes you see people at factories,
> > > they've been in
> > > a plant that's got toxic stuff on them and they get hosed down
> > > later. I felt
> > > on Saturday night like I'd been hosed down."
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