<incom> Re: incom-l Digest, Vol 32, Issue 2
Eduardo Villanueva
evillan at gmail.com
Fri Aug 4 16:11:10 CEST 2006
Soenke, great link, thanks.
I feel this is similar to the OLPC debate. Easy answers to extremely
complicated questions presented with a zeal that simply steamroll anyone or
anything against them. Some years later, those that followed the advice from
the top find themselves mopping up and with a hundred voices telling them to
follow the newest fad.
Oversimplying combined with absence of basic research is a terrible
combination.
Eduardo
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> Vol. 2, No. 2 (2006) of The Journal of Community Informatics has now been
> published online at http://www.ci-journal.net/viewissue.php?id=10
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> Editorial
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> Enabling the Local as a Fundamental Development Strategy
> Michael B. Gurstein, Center for Community Informatics Research,
> Development and Training
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=199
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>
> Articles
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> Towards a Code of Digital Cyberethics
> Udo Richard Averweg, eThekwini Municipality and University of
> KwaZulu-Natal
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=130
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> Digital Inclusion without Social Inclusion: The consumption of information
> and communication technologies (ICTs) in homeless subculture in central
> Scotland
> Claire E. Buré, University of Edinburgh postgraduate
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=94
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> A Research Design to Build Effective Partnerships between City Planners,
> Developers, Government and Urban Neighbourhood Communities
> Marcus Foth, Queensland University of Technology
> Barbara Adkins, Queensland University of Technology
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=142
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> A Cost Maturity Model for Community Informatics Projects in the Developing
> World
> Ferdie C Lochner, Author
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=127
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> Effective Communication in Virtual Adversarial Collaborative Communities
> Aldo de Moor, STARLab, Vrije Universiteit Brussel
> Hans Weigand, Infolab, Tilburg University, the Netherlands
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=116
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> The Learning Community as a Local Development Strategy
> Bernard Sévigny, University of Sherbrooke
> Paul Prévost, University of Sherbrooke
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=111
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> Reports
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> Special Section on Learning in Communities: Introduction
> John M. Carroll, School of Information Sciences and Technology, Center for
> Human-Computer Interaction, The Pennsylvania State University
> Ann Peterson Bishop, Graduate School of Library and Information Science,
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, USA
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=187
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> Special Section on Learning in Communities: Complete
> John M. Carroll, School of Information Sciences and Technology, Center for
> Human-Computer Interaction, The Pennsylvania State University
> Ann Peterson Bishop, Graduate School of Library and Information Science,
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, USA
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=207
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> Community Inquiry and Informatics: Collaborative Learning Through ICT
> Ann Bishop, Graduate School of Library and Information Science, University
> of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, USA
> Bertram C. Bruce, Graduate School of Library and Information Science,
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, USA
> M. Cameron Jones, Graduate School of Library and Information Science,
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, USA
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=202
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> The Participant-Observer in Community-based Learning as Community Bard
> John M. Carroll, The Pennsylvania State University
> Mary Beth Rosson, The Pennsylvania State University
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=198
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> Learning in Communities: A Distributed Intelligence Perspective
> Gerhard Fischer, Center for LifeLong Learning & Design
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=191
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> Spiders in the Net: Universities as Facilitators of Community-based
> Learning
> Gerhard Fischer, Center for LifeLong Learning & Design
> Markus Rohde, Information Systems and New Media, University of Siegen,
> Germany
> Volker Wulf, Information Systems and New Media, University of Siegen;
> Fraunhofer Institute for Applied Information Systems (FhG-FIT), Germany
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=189
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> Designing Technology for Local Citizen Deliberation
> Andrea Kavanaugh, Center for Human Computer Interaction, Virginia
> Polytechnic Institute and State University, USA
> Philip Isenhour, Center for Human Computer Interaction, Virginia
> Polytechnic Institute and State University, USA
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=192
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> Social Reproduction and its Applicability for Community Informatics
> Lynette Kvasny, School of Information Sciences and Technology, Center for
> the Information Society, The Pennsylvania State University
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=194
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> Communities, Learning and Democracy in the Digital Age
> Lynette Kvasny, School of Information Sciences and Technology, Center for
> the Information Society, The Pennsylvania State University
> Nancy Kranich,
> Jorge Reina Schement, College of Communications, The Pennsylvania State
> University, USA
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=193
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> Supporting the Appropriation of ICT: End-User Development in Civil
> Societies
> Volkmar Pipek, Institut für Wirtschaftsinformatik der Universität Siegen
> Mary Beth Rosson, School of Information Sciences and Technology, Center
> for Human-Computer Interaction, The Pennsylvania State University
> Gunnar Stevens, Institute for Information Systems, University of Siegen,
> Germany
> Volker Wulf, Information Systems and New Media, University of Siegen,
> Germany
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=195
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> Developmental Learning Communities
> Mary Beth Rosson, The Pennsylvania State University
> John M. Carroll, The Pennsylvania State University
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=208
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> Radical Praxis and Civic Network Design
> Murali Venkatesh, Community and Information Technology Institute, School
> of Information Studies, Syracuse University
> Jeffrey S. Owens, School of Information Studies, Syracuse University
> http://www.ci-journal.net/viewarticle.php?id=196
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> From: Soenke Zehle <s.zehle at kein.org>
> Subject: <incom> Broad & Cavanagh, The Hijacking of the Development
> Debate
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> An excellent read, lots of useful stats, Soenke
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> Robin Broad and John Cavanagh, "The Hijacking of the Development Debate:
> How Friedman and Sachs Got It wrong," World Policy Journal, Summer 2006
> <http://www.ifg.org/pdf/Broad%20Cavanagh.pdf>
>
> "Thomas Friedman and Jeffrey Sachs — articulate, learned globetrotting
> pundits — would seem an unlikely duo to hijack the development debate.
> Yet, through their best-selling books — Friedman's The World Is Flat and
> Sachs's The End of Poverty — their prominent exposure in the U.S. media,
> and endorsements by celebrities like Bono, the superstar lead singer of
> the rock group U2, they have done precisely that. Just a half decade
> after protests by citizen groups in Latin America and elsewhere
> discredited two decades of market-oriented neoliberal dogma, Friedman
> and Sachs have narrowed the debate with simplistic slogans of "more aid"
> and "more trade." They have done so by putting forward myths about the
> poor, economic development, and the global economy."
>
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> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:14:12 -0400
> From: "Peter Burgess" <peterbnyc at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: <incom> Broad & Cavanagh, The Hijacking of the
> Development Debate
> To: incom-l at incommunicado.info, "Soenke Zehle" <s.zehle at kein.org>
> Cc: Peter Burgess <profitinafrica at gmail.com>
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> Dear Colleagues
>
> Thank you, Soenke, for bringing this article to our attention.
>
> The "stability" of the world is not improved by the "pundits" who
> advocate with huge influence for the wrong things. In a recent article
> in the Economist it was observed (from my memory) that people who
> don't know history will repeat the errors of the past, but that people
> who misinterpret history will also make a mess of the present. It seem
> that Sachs and Friedman ... and their zillions of followers are in the
> second group.
>
> But the "institutions" of the relief and development sector (RDS) have
> also hijacked the development debate. When the World Bank or the UN
> says something about development, most of the media accepts it as
> valid analysis. As you know I have spent a long time (years) trying to
> get facts about relief and development performance from an
> accountant's perspective. How much did it cost? What was accomplished?
> What is the durable value of the accomplishment? All simple accounting
> concepts. But the RDS institutions have no concept of what I am
> talking about, let alone any data. The lack of management information
> is obscene.
>
> I am in the middle of an effort to get this information pulled
> together for the global malaria crisis. What works? How much does it
> cost? What are the results (the aim is hopefully to reduce the
> prevalence of malaria!)? What works best at least cost? Are there ways
> to reduce the cost and increase the results? All basic management
> information ... but though there are thousands of reports, NONE have
> clear cost and result information in them. (hopefully this is not
> true, but up to now after looking at several hundred peer reviewed
> academic documents I have not yet found meaningful cost / result
> information).
>
> I think this is a disgraceful situation ... and I think the next step
> should be to start holding the leaders of the various institutions
> accountable for their failure to manage the resources under their
> responsibility ... ALL OF THEM.
>
> But it is worse ... the official accountability organizations like the
> US GAO routinely report on an absolutely catastrophic failure to do
> the accounting and contracting in a responsible way ... but always
> somehow do the study and write the report after billions have gone
> missing. When I was an active corporate accountant/CFO, the job was to
> stop the money going missing in the first place. What on earth is
> going on.
>
> Peter Burgess
> ____________
> Peter Burgess
> The Transparency and Accountability Network
> Tr-Ac-Net in New York
> 212 772 6918
> peterbnyc at gmail.com
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> On 8/3/06, Soenke Zehle <s.zehle at kein.org> wrote:
> > An excellent read, lots of useful stats, Soenke
> >
> > Robin Broad and John Cavanagh, "The Hijacking of the Development Debate:
> > How Friedman and Sachs Got It wrong," World Policy Journal, Summer 2006
> > <http://www.ifg.org/pdf/Broad%20Cavanagh.pdf>
> >
> > "Thomas Friedman and Jeffrey Sachs — articulate, learned globetrotting
> > pundits — would seem an unlikely duo to hijack the development debate.
> > Yet, through their best-selling books — Friedman's The World Is Flat and
> > Sachs's The End of Poverty — their prominent exposure in the U.S. media,
> > and endorsements by celebrities like Bono, the superstar lead singer of
> > the rock group U2, they have done precisely that. Just a half decade
> > after protests by citizen groups in Latin America and elsewhere
> > discredited two decades of market-oriented neoliberal dogma, Friedman
> > and Sachs have narrowed the debate with simplistic slogans of "more aid"
> > and "more trade." They have done so by putting forward myths about the
> > poor, economic development, and the global economy."
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> From: Geert Lovink <geert at xs4all.nl>
> Subject: <incom> please feel free to use cbox on our site
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> Dear all,
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